AJ commits to Byu

My mistake after reading from Harold. This was a huge picked up for BYU men’s basketball program! But too bad, I only can listen to the game on the radio, which I no longer can see. But I like to see that we play against Gonzaga in our Marriott center!

Sports Illustrated?

I don’t care if it’s not all coming from BYU; paying them millions is obscene and not something we should be connected with. They already get a scholarship (I know, I know. He’s only staying for a year, so the scholarship is meaningless).

I still wouldn’t be surprised to see him “transfer portal” somewhere else before he even gets here (I guess it would just be re-signing in his case).

Understood
Hear me out. Been to a few practices. KY has to use Demin and Catchings or the whole recruiting “one and dones” would dry up.

I am guessing that KY does not care about immediate rankings or win every game, he is prepping these guys for:
1-League play
2- Post play.
The pre season was always going to be bumpy. As you point out, thank goodness for Foos and Saunders. Also, Hall’s injury has slowed down the jelling process, Demin was nursing a pulled muscle in late summer and Boskovic was real iffy on if he would get NCAA transfer preference.

Salivating on who signs behind AJ

The players were being paid before. The real thing is, they work very hard for a few bucks to pay for their education. Yet the institutions make millions. I like the fact they can make this kind of money. The players of the past should have been paid. I’d like to see more control and players being made to play post season.

As far as the impact of NIL, Bilas said, “This is now cheap professional ownership. If you want to own an NBA team, you’ve gotta be a billionaire, a multi-billionaire.

“If you want to have a piece of a college team, and we’re going to see these college teams sold to private equity, 51% of a team is going to go of a program. We’re going to see that in the future for an infusion of capital, we’re going to see that. I think it’s been pro sports for a long time, but now we’re going to see the benefits start going to the players, and they can build generational wealth with this. I think it’s nothing but a good thing.”

McKay, I am also old school. College should 1-get a degree 1st, then sports and you should be greatful to get your tuition paid but the future says otherwise…thank goodness we have a Ryan Smith and that tithing is not being used

I know, but it really does change my interest in college sports in general and BYU in particular. If we participate in this buying of foreign and ranked players, along with portal-pa-looza, my interest declines sharply.

I’m actually more invested now in NAU, where my four kids have all gone to school. We already are unhappy with BYU’s woke liberal nonsense, and they’ve made it clear that they would give anything, including selling heart and soul, to be well-regarded by the elites and the big shots. Athletics is just a continuation of that. At least with FCS (which I’ve been following more, as I attend games), you can follow recruits all the way through, and they tend to stay and not jump ship (although that happens some).

I enjoyed the Olympics when it was our amateurs against the ‘roided professionals of the Soviet bloc, and we often won or held our own. It saddens me that my kids’ and grandkids’ sports is nothing like it was for me to follow.

Sigh.

Are you serious?

The benefits of a scholarship at BYU are substantial:

  1. Tuition and Fees: Covers the cost of tuition and mandatory fees.
  2. Room and Board: Includes housing and meal plans, ensuring student-athletes have a place to live and meals provided.
  3. Books and Supplies: Covers the cost of textbooks and necessary academic supplies.
  4. Personal Tutors: Scholarship recipients are assigned tutors to help with their academic workload.
  5. Performance Trainers: Access to specialized equipment and coaches to improve performance, along with dietitians to optimize nutrition.
  6. Medical Staff Access: Comprehensive medical support, from routine care to surgeries.

When you add all these benefits up, the total value is well over $200,000 to $250,000 a year. That’s far more than just “a few bucks”!

I heard this once, “Change is good.” In order to compete with the big schools, it’s necessary to bring in the top athletes that want to be here. Not sure what you mean by selling heart and soul. As far as I see, BYU is still 98% members of the Church. If you could elaborate a bit more, I’d appreciate it.

Are you on something? Please find the actual costs for each. I seriously doubt $250,000. I was not in any of the athletic sports at BYU. I did not pay for health insurance nor did I pay for any routine care and surgeries, including physical therapy afterwards. We also had tutoring available as well. On line, I see that 2022-2023, the tuition and costs for 4 years is $84,480. Tuition for non-members would at another $12,000 to that. That’s about $20,000 to $25,000 per student.

I actually did research:
BYU annual tuition is around 12,500.00 per the school website
Books can be anywhere between 750-1500 based on subject and major. One quarter my daughter went to school, and I ended up paying 1800 for her books (Nursing).
Personal Tutors are paid for by the Athletic department. Since they do not disclose pay, I based it on what my oldest was paid when she did it for another university. which was around 10.00 an hour.
Trainers - are again paid for by the AD office and guess what, those guys go up to 100k bracket.
That does not include the training clothing like pants, cleats, T-shirts, etc.
They get medical treatments for aliments and injury which is free to the player, but the student at BYU has to pay for the service.

All those services cost money, which I include but most sites do not consider what the schools fork out as part of the package.

They don’t cost the students. Are you sure about the medical. If I was injured in a school activity I didn’t have to pay anything. Other than that, the school pays for non-athletes as well for those things. So, it’s nothing they are paying for. Like I said, $250,000 is way over. And was that per year too? LOL!

Right after the AJ signing announcement (and I think there is a subsequent article or two at least alluding to it) I thought this would start attempts to “copy cat” at a number of other universities. This will set a new trend in methodology in how to sign elite one and done future pros. It can only really work IMHO at similar status bball programs as BYU - meaning maybe the second tier bball programs - maybe top 20 to 40 programs. t’ll be difficult for smaller programs to duplicate.

he formula is there. Get coaches and other staffs that have worked tons with pro athletes and teams. The problem is that there are not many current or ex-pro coaches that are SO connected and have the credibility of KY. And you have to have the NIL ready to go (big donors). Plus, the number of programs able to do this is also limited by the pool of available highly likely pro prospects. I think you’ll start to see some of those BYU level of college teams start scouring pro coach ranks to get somebody on board and part of the staff. This recruiting pro bound college athletes is a huge change for college hoops - a C change in recruiting that will last at least 10 years in my opinion.
It’ll be interesting to see if the Blue Blood think they need to change. I think they will have to add some pro experienced staff. But initially, they will think they’re too big to need to change,
And what do you do about successful college head coaches - even at the Blue Bloods that don’t have the pro experience?
Maybe they become dinosaurs at some point. I think BYU AD Holmoe was brilliant in bringing in KY and didn’t realize at the time the magnitude of the change it will have on college bball recruitment. He probably just thought it would likely just highly benefit BYUs program. OR, he’s a total genius and THIS is how you upgrade your program! Football will be a few seasons behind, but Holmoe will get that upgraded too.

Brigham Young 2025 Basketball Prospects

how many we got left?

Not sure how many of you saw this:
BYU basketball: AJ Dybantsa’s journey to BYU began with parents – Deseret News

But apparently there was an additional recruiting needed to be done before they recruited AJ!

His parents took at recruiting trip to BYU before their son came!

Ya but, according to the experts here at Cougarfan BYUSN guys are dumb not knowledgeable in anything sports. Just BYU hacks who push BYU. Well, I’ll take the announcers and analysts at BYUSN take on anything before Twack, Lanier, Hawks and anyone else for sure now. :rofl:

First of all, they did not recruit anyone! they showed the parents around BYU (not just the studio) at the request of Coach Young!

What those people are saying is they are not experts in what it takes to coach or play the sports and the fact that they are paid by BYU, their opinions are biased.

And, if you watch the show you know they are not biased. They are very fair. When they present bias they put on their blue goggles so everyone knows.
Also, did you read the article? If you had you would know that the media building and what the parents were told made a big difference with the parents and eventually AJ. You just want to argue.

This proves my point about you.

Yes, I watch the show as often as I can and YES yhey are biased with thier softball questions.

I rarely watch the show anymore unless during the basketball season, year round football coverage just bores me beyond bearable.
But to think that they are not biased is beyond fathomable…
They are good journalists, they follow the NCAA rules, but non-biased not even part of the question, or even their job description.

Softball questions? What kind of questions do you want? They dig in and find out information. This isn’t political commentary stuff. Good grief!

It’s weird feelings you have about this. You get lots of interviews and honest answers. Again, when they are going to be biased, they say so. They will put on the blue goggles. Uggg!!!