Haha, didn’t realize it was happening on this thread as well. Maybe I should post the same comments here that I did on the other thread because they certainly apply.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This is exactly what I have been saying. SG thinks my head is going to explode after he and Harold had their intellectual discussion and eventual argument about what they both believe. You have stated clearly and succintly the very thoughts and ideas that I perceive are taking place currently. I think I’ve stated in the past that you are the voice of reason and objectivity on this board. Once again you have proven me correct.
You still don’t get where you go wrong on this. I’ll say one word, “billionaires.” You don’t believe anyone should have that much money.
If there were a limit on how much one can have then people good enough to have more than the limit would limit their effort. Then, everyone below them would limit their efforts and so on. Socialism.
Again… you don’t understand. Where have I ever said that? There is a difference between thinking that someone shouldn’t HAVE that much money and thinking that someone shouldn’t NEED that much money. It’s a difference you don’t comprehend but again, that has been one of your issues over the years… comprehending what someone else is saying or what they believe. It is the main reason why you are always arguing with everyone. NOBODY argues to the degree that you do on this board… it’s a problem with you, not everyone else.
Having said that, it doesn’t mean you are a bad person or lack intelligence. I happen to think you are a good person and intelligent. I’m not sure others here think the same.
Lastly, don’t get caught up in the notion that people “good enough” to have more, will have more. That is one of the most perplexing aspects of mormon misunderstandings, that somehow the righteous, good people are “blessed” with financial prosperity. That somehow being prosperous in the land means having lots of material possessions… a big house, fancy cars, luxurious vacations, etc. I’m sure the majority of LDS people look at a guy like Ryan Smith and think he is the pillar of righteousness because he is so wealthy. It’s a disease and sickness to think that way. It’s the cause of more problems in the LDS community than solutions. We would be better served with the belief that having “sufficient for our needs” is a more Christ like goal than having more than our neighbor. Believe what you want, you won’t understand what I am saying anyway.
you are right…I don’t watch Fox, or CNN, or MSNBC etc etc…I mostly read news.
I for one don’t, I hate what he has done to the Jazz, and all the pats on the back he likes to show everyone. Classical nerd with a complex. (sorry, I’m judgmental there)
but that is not the point, I do not care if someone with their own strength, foresight and ingenuity builds a mass fortune of wealth by building something up.
What I care about is how this person who makes millions or even billions, uses that money to help others who need it. Not talking about helping the dole, but the truly needy.
Jon Huntsman was a billionaire, who spent a lot of money helping others. When the earthquake hit Armenia, he sent in construction crews to help rescue people, and then rebuild the cities, on his own dime.
Of course, there is the Huntsman Cancer center that he created to help find a cure for cancer, my daughter works there as a research analyst. My daughter has met Jon Huntsman and says he is a “bit different”, but his focus is making sure anyone that comes the institute, feels welcome and loved.
Another example, Is Garett Bolles, former Ute and current NFL Bronco lineman. The guy makes $$ and yet, he is back in Utah giving free clinic for kids.
Through his GB3 Foundation, Bolles helps kids with learning disabilities “find success through mentors in educational strategies, spiritual and mental well-being, whole body nutrition and physical health for the purpose of equipping them to live their dream,”
There are many other examples, but too me, the important thing is that people should remember that “when given much, we should help others”.
Sorry Jim, I kind of went off on a sidetrack there.
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You hit the nail on the head. The love of money is the root of all evil and obtaining great wealth can corrupt people and often does. Money is not evil but it can corrupt people. Poverty is not virtuous either. When we are judged it will be an accounting of what we did with what we are given and what kind of character we developed.
I wish I could remember the reference in the D&C where the rich are admonished to not covet their own wealth and to generously lift those who are lacking. Then the scripture admonishes the poor to not covet another man’s goods. It is a reminder that our material accumulations are gone at the end of mortality and will only have bearing on our eternal state in regard to how we used them.
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Like that’s better? How is that better? Would it be the same to read smut books or the Book of Mormon? The New York Times (Slimes) isn’t going to give you the truth either. The Washington Compost too. So, where to you get your information from? The spoken word is as good or bad as the written word. Tune in sometime and get fully educated 
Yes, you do get judgmental quite easily and off track as well. I agree with you on these.
So, if you want to become the greatest basketball player who do you learn and follow? Jordan or Townsend Tripple? Spiritually, Tripple. Physically and for your career, Jordan. You follow the best. If he’s rich like Jordan or Smith, you follow, learn and do the good things they bring. You aren’t required to do the bad things and learn those things to do. I would much rather follow George Patton into war than Omar Bradley or any other weaker general. I wouldn’t follow all his moral indignations but certainly his business on the field of war. Am I getting my point through?
Smith followed someone to the top and others will follow him who are behind him. Take the good with the bad. I can tell you the best boss I have ever had was the franchise owner of a Jack in the Box. He knew his business and how to lead to being a better employee. At the same time, he was a drunk who stepped out on his wife, gorgeous wife many of times. I followed his leadership to the next level at the time based on the business leadership he had. And, met my wife while doing so. Uggg…
We are told to elect righteous people to lead us politically. Yet, when we have a choice, who do we elect? And, are the righteous ones turn out to be the best ones. Between Trump and Hillary? Trump and Biden? I’ll take Trump to lead the country every time. I don’t care about the other weaknesses. I pray for him on those areas and his leadership for the country and the world.
Am I the only one confused by Scott’s response to my comment to Jim?
What does following someone elses path or which guy is best based on talent, have to do with my point in “how” people who has amassed wealth help others with that wealth?
You might be able to figure it out. Probably not. Give it a shot 
Didn’t remotely say it is better…this is why people so often say you are so argumentative…you too often read things that aren’t written.
Lots of misunderstanding and confusion… comprehension issues and thinking in a way that creates a this or that argumentative situation.
We are all pretty close to being on the same page but it doesn’t take much to make some people think we are miles apart. That is kind of what is going on in todays society and culture, although I think the division is more pronounced and real than it used to be.
Weird times.
Sadly too true.
and a coda:
It struck me as I was getting ready for church this morning that I saw Haviv Rettig Gur had put up a new post on YouTube; and I realized that though I used to watch him regularly for his historical analysis these days I watch him for his news and analysis.
So I guess I do “watch news” now: about an hour a week or so…and I do recommend his analysis, news, and histories of and about Israel.
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