And the starting QB for BYU will be.....drum roll

I would like to hear everyone’s opinion on who the starter should be. And why?

I am on record as saying that my guy is Critchlow but I hear a lot of Tanner hype going on and would not be surprised to see him start.

Tanner will be ready and healthy! He’s the guy.

Tanner is not able to run the team in pressure situations If they start him it will be a big mistake. Critchlow has more upside and without seeing the other QB contenders I would say he is the guy.

I have the impression from listening to interviews that Tanner is in a better place this season, so in my very humble opinion, he and Joe Critchlow are dead even. I might give the nod to Tanner simply because of game experience, but I am good with either as starter. That said, I would like to see a game where NONE of our starters end up injured for half the season. Just sayin"…

Honestly I wasn’t impressed with Mangum or Critchlow last year and was more impressed with Hoge before his injury made him a different player. Wilson is most likely the future for this program. That said it’s still a toss up. Mangum has the tools, but does he have the leadership mentality and he is injury prone. Critchlow has the arm, but he really isn’t a duel threat qb, which I believe the coaches are looking for. Who worked the hardest over the last 4 months? You possibly have Conover in the mix in a few years, heir apparent to Wilson. Logic says Mangum, red-shirt Wilson and let Wilson, Critchlow and company battle it out next year. So my pick his Hoge😉

First, I’ll bet the oddsmakers read who played the most during the spring game and made him the favorite to start in the fall. I think the breakdown is more like

  1. Mangum - experience, possible resurgence with a better system
  2. Hoge - dual threat but injury prone…one more concussion and his career is over
  3. Wilson - the most upside of those who played in the spring…dual threat and throws a nice ball. Kalani won’t hesitate to put in a freshman, if the freshman is better than Critchlow and if it means saving Kalani’s job
  4. Critchlow - good player but not as good as those above, if I’ve read the press clippings correctly
  5. Hall - if he had been here in the spring, he’d be #2

My book, and only my opinion…

Critchlow runs at least as well as Tanner, just sayin.
Hoge is a true athlete (like Hill) but does not have the touch to make great throws.
Wilson is soooo raw and with 3 guys ahead of him who have all played significant minutes, Wilson is a year or two away. I still like Critchlow a lot. Tanner, if his head is right should get the start but who knows until you take the field.

remind me who we were playing when Hoge got injured? Seems we were in the soft part of the schedule.

Utah State I believe and we were pretty much dominating them until he went down and we went in the tank. I think Hoge is the dual threat qb they are looking for but he has to be able to make the throws. I think you are right_ Wilson is a year away. Critchlow runs better than Mangum, but that’s not saying a lot. Mangum has the arm to run this team-does he have the head?

Beau Hoge should be the starter because of his dual threat play and I agree if another concussion then he is done. Jeff Grimes like this dual threat BH QB.

TM more likely will be the starter but if he doesn’t get it going against Arizona in early game, he will be yank early in the 1st quarter. Next insert Joe Critchlow and if he too having the same issue then Beau Hoge will lead the way the rest of the 1st game.

I would love to see Wilson play too but he should Redshirt this year and let him play some 4 games “NCAA new rule w/o losing a redshirt.”

I just never have trusted his arm. More of the mold of Riley , even in his best year, as a Jr. Nelson was under a 60% completion guy.


I think Critchlow sees the field well and BYU has 4 stud recievers in Simon, Bush, Grunner Romney and Davis
Then you have Collie, Aleva Hifo, Inoke Lotulelei, Dye. We have a stable of very capable recievers with gametime experiense………This group screams that we need a QB that can throw a precision ball.

This all brings me to my next point. Grimy is a linemen specialist. I would be surprised if he did not get our linemen worked out giving the QB enough time to find an open receiver. Or opening holes for Canada or Katoa.

He is elusive as a running back and a reliable receiver out of the backfield.

Much more athletic than Riley and much stronger arm. Accuracy is the question mark. Don’t remind me of Riley-ugh

But does he have grit? :joy:

Yeh definitely grit, but he is ineffective when injured. The great qbs can play through some injuries. Dunno Fish, it’s tough being on the outside. Will be interesting

   Grimes said: (I paraphrase), regarding the top 4 contender to be the starting QB:

The chosen one must be confident;
Must be tough;
    Must have a competitive spirit about him.,” . 
“That’s a non-negotiable. 

He has to be able to run our offense flawlessly; 
    He must be able to break the huddle, call the play, 
shift, motion, check us into the right play. 

He’s got to be able to run the offense. 

Lastly, he needs to be accurate when he throws 
the football. Consistently accurate. 

A guy’s athleticism is something we like and certainly value but we can live with 
    a little bit more or less of that either way. 

His job is to run the offense and distribute the football consistently.”	

I believe that all four of the top contenders will show confidence during Fall Camp.

I believe that  both Junior Beau Hoge; Sophomore Joe Critchlow may come out on 
top for showing toughness.

   This is not a strength of Tanner and Zach is still to young to be thought of as tough.  
(Very good, but not yet tough).

All four of our contenders will show, during Fall camp, a very competitive spirit.

With all of his experience and remembering how he was in his Freshman Year, I do believe 		
    that Tanner is over his depression issues and is (at this time), the leader to look at to run our
    offense flawlessly.  I am open to the idea, that Fall Camp may change my opinion.  

We know that Junior Beau Hoge; Sophomore Joe Critchlow; Senior Tanner Magnum are 
each capable of  being able to break the huddle, call the play, shift motion, and check us into 
    the right play.

   We also know that while Wilson was great in high school, he has no experience at the D1 			
   College football level.  I believe that It would be best for him to not get thrown to the wolves 
   before he is ready.  If fall camp shows him to be the best choice, I will be happy  with that and
   give him my 100%support.   

    We also know that Tanner has the most experience.  In trying to right the ship, I believe it would be a 
    shame to throw the baby out with the wash.

Ultimately, I put my full trust in both the OC and the QB coach to make the right decision 	based on how 
    well the four top contenders do during this month of Fall Practice which starts 8/3/18. 

With our current coaching staff, there will be no favortisim.  There will be no politics.  The best    
   man will be chosen.  I trust that.

I will cheer on and support anyone of the three or four of these QB’s that proves himself to be the 
    man for the job this Fall.

Senior Tanner Mangum;
Junior Beau Hoge; 
Sophomore Joe Critchlow; 
Freshman Zach Wilson.

Grimes said: (I paraphrase), regarding the top 4 contender to be the starting QB:

The chosen one must be confident;
Must be tough;
    Must have a competitive spirit about him.,” . 
“That’s a non-negotiable. 

He has to be able to run our offense flawlessly; 
    He must be able to break the huddle, call the play, 
shift, motion, check us into the right play. 

He’s got to be able to run the offense. 

Lastly, he needs to be accurate when he throws 
the football. Consistently accurate. 

A guy’s athleticism is something we like and certainly value but we can live with 
    a little bit more or less of that either way. 

His job is to run the offense and distribute the football consistently.”	

I believe that all four of the top contenders will show confidence during Fall Camp.

I believe that  both Junior Beau Hoge; Sophomore Joe Critchlow may come out on 
top for showing toughness.

   This is not a strength of Tanner and Zach is still to young to be thought of as tough.  
(Very good, but not yet tough).

All four of our contenders will show, during Fall camp, a very competitive spirit.

With all of his experience and remembering how he was in his Freshman Year, I do believe 		
    that Tanner is over his depression issues and is (at this time), the leader to look at to run our
    offense flawlessly.  I am open to the idea, that Fall Camp may change my opinion.  

We know that Junior Beau Hoge; Sophomore Joe Critchlow; Senior Tanner Magnum are 
each capable of  being able to break the huddle, call the play, shift motion, and check us into 
    the right play.

   We also know that while Wilson was great in high school, he has no experience at the D1 			
   College football level.  I believe that It would be best for him to not get thrown to the wolves 
   before he is ready.  If fall camp shows him to be the best choice, I will be happy  with that and
   give him my 100%support.   

    We also know that Tanner has the most experience.  In trying to right the ship, I believe it would be a 
    shame to throw the baby out with the wash.

Ultimately, I put my full trust in both the OC and the QB coach to make the right decision 	based on how 
    well the four top contenders do during this month of Fall Practice which starts 8/3/18. 

With our current coaching staff, there will be no favortisim.  There will be no politics.  The best    
   man will be chosen.  I trust that.

I will cheer on and support anyone of the three or four of these QB’s that proves himself to be the 
    man for the job this Fall.

Senior Tanner Mangum;
Junior Beau Hoge; 
Sophomore Joe Critchlow; 
Freshman Zach Wilson.

Grimes said: (I paraphrase), regarding the top 4 contender to be the starting QB:

The chosen one must be confident;
Must be tough;
    Must have a competitive spirit about him.,” . 
“That’s a non-negotiable. 

He has to be able to run our offense flawlessly; 
    He must be able to break the huddle, call the play, 
shift, motion, check us into the right play. 

He’s got to be able to run the offense. 

Lastly, he needs to be accurate when he throws 
the football. Consistently accurate. 

A guy’s athleticism is something we like and certainly value but we can live with 
    a little bit more or less of that either way. 

His job is to run the offense and distribute the football consistently.”	

I believe that all four of the top contenders will show confidence during Fall Camp.

I believe that  both Junior Beau Hoge; Sophomore Joe Critchlow may come out on 
top for showing toughness.

   This is not a strength of Tanner and Zach is still to young to be thought of as tough.  
(Very good, but not yet tough).

All four of our contenders will show, during Fall camp, a very competitive spirit.

With all of his experience and remembering how he was in his Freshman Year, I do believe 		
    that Tanner is over his depression issues and is (at this time), the leader to look at to run our
    offense flawlessly.  I am open to the idea, that Fall Camp may change my opinion.  

We know that Junior Beau Hoge; Sophomore Joe Critchlow; Senior Tanner Magnum are 
each capable of  being able to break the huddle, call the play, shift motion, and check us into 
    the right play.

   We also know that while Wilson was great in high school, he has no experience at the D1 			
   College football level.  I believe that It would be best for him to not get thrown to the wolves 
   before he is ready.  If fall camp shows him to be the best choice, I will be happy  with that and
   give him my 100%support.   

    We also know that Tanner has the most experience.  In trying to right the ship, I believe it would be a 
    shame to throw the baby out with the wash.

Ultimately, I put my full trust in both the OC and the QB coach to make the right decision 	based on how 
    well the four top contenders do during this month of Fall Practice which starts 8/3/18. 

With our current coaching staff, there will be no favortisim.  There will be no politics.  The best    
   man will be chosen.  I trust that.

I will cheer on and support anyone of the three or four of these QB’s that proves himself to be the 
    man for the job this Fall.

Senior Tanner Mangum;
Junior Beau Hoge; 
Sophomore Joe Critchlow; 
Freshman Zach Wilson.

My opinion is that the combination of the HC, the QB coach, and the OC will have a decision by committee, mostly led by the OCregarding whom the starting QB will be and whom the back up will be.

Each of these coaches know more than any of us, how important it is that they make the right choice. Each of them know better than us, that this is not the time for personality favorites, not the time for political appointments, and not the time for any other consideration other than to get the most qualified man for the
job.

Perhaps nobody more than the HC, knows that this may be a do or die season for the HC following the disaster of 2017, while at the same time, remembering the fantastic season the year before where only 8 points that kept us from being undefeated.

Nobody knows more than the QB coach that was brought to the Y, by the OC, that a very heavy weight is on his shoulders to get it right, not only for the Y, or the HC, but also for the OC.

Perhaps, the disaster of the 2017 season is the shot in the arm,that it takes to remind us all, that we must be prepared and do what it takes to be successful.

We now know that the more restrictions that we put on ourselves, the more difficult it will be, if not impossible, to achieve at this degree of a higher level, which is even much less than if we were in a P5 conference.

I like all 4 of our top contenders, I will be happy with whom is chosen by our said coaches within the next two weeks, (hopefully). Like most of this board, I do have my favorite. My favorite does not seem to be the one that most on this board wants. Let the coaches be the deciding factor and let’s all be happy with their choice.

Ron

I don’t think Critchlow is going to be the QB, either Mangum or Wilson (newbie).

Are you sure about that? Did he not do it under Anae scheme two years earlier?

What happened last year was Ty Detmer fault, not Mangum. Ty was trying to force Tanner into a Pro style offense when Tanner skills does not meet those requirements, he is more of a roll out an throw type of QB.

Rumor has it that Hoge is being moved to defense.

well, there goes that argument.

Hoge gone, my money has been on Critch since spring camp