I am going to take up for Beo and Leifson based on your comment of “Who is this Beo kid” that you obviously don’t care for. You don’t seem to have a problem making a comment like that based on Beo being given about 1 min of playing time per game, but you have a problem with those of us that see Haws for 30 plus minutes a game and have actual statistics on how he is doing. Interesting take on what allows you to have your knowledge and what doesn’t allow others to have knowledge enough to even comment on this board. So, Mr “I support coach Rose unconditionally,” Who had the highest assist average for their HS career out of Beo, Haws, Emery, Calvert, or Leifson? Same question on points per game? Same question on rebounds per game? Same question on TO’s per game, same question on 2 pt shooting % and same question on 3 pt shooting %? Would you be surprised that Emery and Haws didn’t lead in any of those areas? They didn’t and only Emery tied for 2nd in one category.
We will get to see Calvert compete head to head with Emery and Haws next year. That will be a telling interaction. We will all get to see it and not have to guess. However, those of you on this thread condemn the comparisons of Emery and Haws to Leifson and Beo in the Blue/While scrimmage where we had an extended look at all four players on the court for a lot of minutes. The coaches set it up so that there was direct competition even though if they had to do it over again, I doubt they would… Haws and Emery were taken to the wood shed (particularly Haws) by Beo and Leifson. Haws was so frustrated that he threw Beo to the floor. Beo and Leif hammered them in points, assists, and the TO dept. It was a surprise to everyone except those that had watched the AAU circuit and had seen the competition in HS were pac 12 players were burned by Beo for 3 years. Beo isn’t as flashy as Haws or Emery. He is a very unselfish player. The team is made better by his presence. Throw out the scrimmage results, say all the Haws and Emery supporters … doesn’t mean anything! If Haws and Emery had been the ones to light up the other side … I bet the H and E supports wouldn’t be so quick to throw out the results. So, in response to your question about who Beo is, I would say that he is the guy on the team that is getting the short end of the stick from coach Rose. Why? Well, it isn[t based on “history” of HS performance and it evidently isn’t based on head to head match ups in televised scrimmages … and it isn’t that Beo has stunk it up in the 8 min of playing time he has been given for the entire season. Why is calling for Rose to put Beo in the game and give him 1/3 of Haw’s minutes such an offending question or suggestion to you and other Haws supporters? What are you afraid of? I say that you and others know that Haws isn’t playing at a D-1 level (except vs WSU) so I say it is politics. You say it isn’t. You have no more knowledge than I do to back up your assertion. I have at least some numbers to say that Beo deserves playing time in comparison to the output of “history” and head to head match ups between the two players. The more losses BYU absorbs because of poor offensive play, TO’s and terrible defense … the louder the calls will be for coach Rose to explain that his decision making wasn’t based on politics. I believe he knows this and that is the reason that Beo may not see the court in a meaningful way this year. What if he comes in for 15 min and is a stabilizing influence, scores, assists, and makes his teammates better? For heaven sakes, when Rose puts Frampton in the game and excludes the players mentioned by other posters … how would you explain the Beo playing time decision? Haw’s should be coming off the bench this year if playing time was awarded based on performance. It is either politics or thick hard headedness that is the driving force behind Roses decisions on playing time. I don’t think Rose is that dumb, so it leads me to politics. We will see what Colorado brings. My over arching concern is that we get better as a team, not who is a better player in this example of Haws and Beo. I don’t really care which is better, but I do care which one OR if both can help this team. I see no logical reason that Haws should get 99% of the playing time against a kid who clearly outplayed him in the scrimmage and has a history of better numbers against bigger competition. Fairness measured by bb statistics is unbiased. Let the fairness begin!
If Rose doesn’t give anyone but Haws playing time and we continue to lose games that we should win and Haws plays average to poor, Rose is going to be on the hot seat like never before. If you don’t think there was political fallout from Chatman leaving, you have your head buried in the sand. BTW, he is now shooting a much higher % from 3 than Haws or Emery after being given consistent minutes. See what a little playing time gives to talented kids? Do we need to discuss the defensive attributes of Jordan vs the LP duo?