Roy,
You say that I know nothing about you. Again, you are wrong,
You say that to mention Heaps in the same sentence with Magnum is heresy.
You said that in part of what Bronco said in the article was, “I took it as far as I could go in relationship to independence, but you corrected the article by saying “he took it as far as he could.”
You said, If Tanner is put on the back burner, there is a good chance he will transfer.
I believe that both Magnum and Hill, each being very unselfish and being return missionaries are truly more interested in BYU getting to the next level than they are in which one starts vs who is the back up.
Regarding the media coverage, you stated that Utah got better coverage because they offered more money than BYU was willing to pay.
I think that Utah, at least temporarily pulled away from us, having 3 successful BCS bowl games to our none; getting into the Pac 12 while no P5 conference apparently wants us; and while they have been consistently a ranked team while in a power 5 conference, we have not. I don’t think the amount of money Utah offered compared to the amount of money BYU refused to pay has anything to do with it. We can’t blame everything that goes bad with us, on the media or on the money that people spend vs the amount of money that we are not willing to spend.
When I speak of (we), I am speaking of we on this board; we as students or alum; or we, as BYU fans that want the best for our Cougars and our University. The “We” of which I speak, may not agree on the main goal, or even the path to reach any/all main goals, but “ We” do all what (we) “Think” is best for our BYU Cougars.
You have questioned Bronco’s integrity. You question whether he has the highest of the high integrity as advertise. Now you state that you really don’t care about Bronco and the coaches he took with him. You don’t really care what they do or don’t do.
On this one, I tend to agree with you.
You judged Sarkisian pertaining to him being fired from USC.
You state that Bronco had trouble getting his team prepared of big games, including against the U. of U. You stated that it was good to have Bronco go to Virginia. You stated that we need a different direction.
With one little acceptation, I agree with the paragraph above.
The acceptation is this: Bronco showed that he was capable of winning the big game as he won almost every big first game of the season, including, but not limited to the big Oklahoma game and the games vs. Texas. After that first big win, Bronco had no staying power. He was not willing to put forth the effort to win the other big games. instead he would lose to those lesser big games but cover himself by programing enough Patsy teams with an SOS average for those Patsy teams to be 100 or worse, to guarantee a winning season and a meaningless bowl game that we never deserved because we got the bowl game because of our programing instead of winning difficult teams on the field of play.’
You stated that the officials messed up several calls, especially early. (Utah game). You also state that the coaches was unprepared for the start of the game.
I agree with you, except you did not mention that Bronco gave the team and coaches time off for healing and relaxation the week before the game while Utah spent ever day practicing to play us. Each team had a bye week before the game. Utah took good advantage of that bye week… we took off for coaches and team to relax and recuperate. We were favored by 7 but instead we lost by 7.
You stated that Bronco and Anae STINK at playing Utah at the bowl game. I agree.
It was more important for Bronco to have his mind on recruiting for Virginia than taking the time to call a time out for our Cougars when he saw how badly things were going in the first 5 minutes of that disastrous bowl game to get the team unraveled and stop making rattled mistakes. BRONCO INSTEAD, waited until we were down 35-0, before he gave the game any of his attention.
Capable, but will not apply, comes to mind when thinking of Bronco as a head coach.
Next you start acting like a smart allelic with me asking me to get on the horn with Holmoe to advise him.
You like to rationalize playing FCS teams.
I quote you: “ I don’t understand the crying and wringing of hands. We played Wagner, get over it. For those who insist that we play 12 top 10 teams each year until we build ourselves up to being a top 10 or top 5 team ourselves. Stop lickin those stamps man, that’s a real gone fantasy and a bad trip.
You were replying to a statement that I made. “ If we want to be respected as a P5 independent team for programing purposes and hopefully be the undisputed top choice for the next P5 conference opening, we need to program like a P5 team, play on the field like a P5 team and win like a P5 team. " We must distance ourselves from anything that resembles a G5 team. “If it is required of P5 teams to play at least 9 P5 teams in each season, than we should do the same.”
You stated that I don’t even know if you were a Mormon. You stated that I know nothing about you. Didn’t your mom join the church when you were about 7 years old? Didn’t your dad join the church later? Wasn’t it you that baptized him?
Well , so much for me knowing nothing about you.
Don’t you have two degrees in the field of Science?
When someone disagrees with you, you call it sarcasm.
In response to me saying that I think if we should (lighten up) on what the power 5 conferences perceive us to be (too difficult) to deal with, we might have better communication between those conferences. I was not suggesting that we change doctrine. I was suggesting that we be a bit less, (in your face), with it. Your reply was:
“ If the LDS church would just give in to: 1) including LGBT+++ and women and non-members into the priesthood and full fellowship including full temple blessings, 2) allowing anyone access to the temple, 3) stop it with those weird practices like the strange underwear.
You definitely sound like those that are “ too hard to deal with” people.
You have stated that with your two science degrees, you, should be able to be good at analysis.
My answer to that is if your analysis is restricted to scientific discovery, I may agree with you, but if you extend that to human behavior, you would flunk my college classes that I have directed in Basic Encounters and Interaction Analysis. In return, I am sure, that if indeed you did teach science, which I am at this time, uncertain of, I would probably flunk your class as well, as science was not, admittedly, my best subject, as interaction Analysis and Basic Analysls .
Roy, I could go on, and on, and on regarding how much I know about you. I won’t waste anymore of your time, or my time, or the time of anyone else on this board with more boring details. I only did this because you accused me of knowing nothing at all about you or even if you were a Mormon or not.
In conclusion:
We need to stop fighting each other.
It is a terrible waste of energy. We should, each of us, direct our energy in a positive manner to help encourage the powers that be, to do those things that we believe would be best for our team.
We, neither of us, may have workable solutions with our ideas, but if we can get people thinking and talking about possible solutions for getting our University team to the next level, (P5 Status), that might work, than each of us has made a positive contribution.
I do not come close to knowing as much as you in science.
We are talking football. My training comes mostly in history, geography, topography, and humanities. Again, we are talking football.
Neither of us has to prove ourselves as being smarter or better than the other. It is not about us. It is about getting our Cougars to the next level. Let’s make a concerted effort to be respectful to each other with no smart allelic remarks attached. Peace brother, peace.
You do not know a thing about me. You don’t even know if I am a member of the LDS Church, or my kind of affiliation, if I am a member…
One last note: Ron just wanted to get some things said but this is boring and not productive for me, they guys who post here and even you. Now you can trash me to you heart’s content and I will NEVER reply to you ever again. A free shot at me or shots. Say the nastiest things you can make up. Your call. 