Has Roderick been Humbled enough

In a Deseret News article Roderick talked about being humbled by what happened last season.

“It is humbling to not play in a bowl game. It is humbling to spend the whole offseason having people think you are not very good,” he said. “And I think it has brought our team close together, and I think we have a lot of players … who are good players that went through some learning, took their lumps last year. And now I believe that those guys are going to show up and play well for us.”

Do we think he has been humbled enough to learn his lessons and will bring a better coached offense then he has in the past?

Not just the offense. The defense has to improve a lot as well.

sure (shaking my head because you missed the point) but Hill’s job isn’t on the line. the question is do you think Roderick has learned from his mistakes and is ready to really coach.

from his statement I posted, I don’t think so. It’s about the players being humbled not him. also the statement “it is humbling to spend the whole offseason having people think you are not very good”. We didn’t think you were, we know it and you’ll be bad until you prove us wrong. the entire quote shows me that he hasn’t learned a thing and he blames the players for his failures.

Get ready for a long season because this fool hasn’t learned a thing.

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I have to agree with you on ARod! He just isn’t a good coach. I don’t want BYU to have another bad season but the upside might be finally getting rid of ARod.

Ya, it’s easy to take quotes from an interview and assume the worst of one’s intentions. The media and Democrats do this all the time with Trump as an example. So, perhaps the intent was that the coaches need to work at getting all the players to better so that we are much deeper at all positions. So, by that understanding, he is blaming the coaches.

Last year’s first stringers were very good as we started off strong. When the injuries piled up, we didn’t have players ready to step up and fill in. We moved people from one position on the lines to another. It showed. In other interviews by coaches and players they work on this during the off-season. Again, interviews by players and coaches happen often on BYUSN. Floyd probably watches once a week.

so I shouldn’t use their words or action to make a judgement on a person. Ok will full ignorance it is.

So I can’t make judgment calls but you can about me. got it

so once again I shouldn’t make assumptions but you can. thank you for enlightening me. I will never forget your the source of all truth for BYU sports

please don’t hide your response here in another topic and not say it in the one it is intended for.

I have shown my work now it is time for you to show yours. why would you say that he is saying something that he didn’t say. remeber that you said we can’t assume. So prove your thought process out as to why you are thinking what you are saying.

See, you cherry picked the one quote out of context. I saw the interview in its entirety. I’ve heard from other coaches and players as well. No one is blaming anyone. They all see what happened last year and are working not to do it again. It’s the armchair quarterbacks who are looking to find fault. But, I understand. You don’t want to be too upbeat incase the season doesn’t go well. Then you can say “See, I told you so.” That’s easy to do.

let me explain what showing your work means. you provide links to your sources that prove your point. don’t just say things are. back it up with proof.

Thank you :disguised_face:

I’m still waiting

See other post and watch past recordings. Just the past week will bring you up to date.

let me educate you again you provide the links to your sources. otherwise we could both be looking at different articles or videos and talking around each other. so once again show your work.

Just watch all last week and this week. You will be enlightened.

Ok got it. You got nothing.

FYI I didn’t cherry pick anything. That’s the quote the article chose to highlight from the interview. Proving that you don’t read or validating anything unless it follows your bias.

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Proving that I don’t just accept quotes from biased articles. Apparently you do.

here we go again. show your work. How/why is it biased. Statements of fact with no proof just makes you look ignorant. I am willing to hear you out, but I am not going to just believe you blindly and take everything you say as truth.

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I’m not asking you to. I’m asking you to find the interview on SN and then decide if you made a blunder by following the crowd with their comments on the quote.

Your quote was found in a article written by the deseret news reporter, Desnews is owned by the church and the reporter is VERY pro BYU.

but yea, the article is so biased. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

fair point.

keep in mind this is a quote from Roderick that they quoted. I am not speaking to the article or the writer only the quote. also I didn’t use the quote in a positive light. if they are biased to be pro BYU and followed their biased then you argument would stand. I didn’t use it that way so yor argument doesn’t stand.

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I’ve been at a family reunion in Green River, Utah for the past several days. Place was like a ghost town… I think they are known for their watermelons but not much else there except a cousin who grew up there. No matter, we had a good time.

Anyhow, I think the summary of this post and question… which the Hopper does a masterful job of ignoring and deflecting is the point of whether or not Roderick is going to take responsibility for what happened last year instead of blaming his players. Honestly, he is the one who calls the plays so he is the primary culprit for much of what we saw last year. The reason BYU didn’t make it to a bowl game and the reason we are even having this discussion is positioned squarely on his shoulders. He is the one who made the dumbest, inexplicable calls at the worst possible times to basically LOSE games for the team last season and he isn’t being held accountable for it… not by the head coach, not by the athletic director, not by anyone and apparetnly the most important person, NOT BY HIMSELF!

That has to change and it starts with his knucklehead and obvious deficit at calling the right plays at the right time to give the team wins. It’s on him.

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