Once Biden is gone. Who will be the nominee?

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So what is his take on the complete lack of awareness that the dude was even on the roof in the first place and he got off several rounds before he was taken down? What was the security force doing? It looked like something out of a training video on what NOT to do.

Maybe I’m playing devil’s advocate here but I always get the impression that you seem flippant about this kind of stuff and it’s just a result of people who can’t tone down rhetoric or something. The level of security that SHOULD have been in place never would have allowed something like this to happen. I don’t think that is unreasonable to think.

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I don’t believe Floyd watched the video. And, his buddy either. I would welcome his buddy to come in here and explain what is false about the 2 shooter hypothesis. There’s nothing in this video that isn’t good information. Especially the line of sight of the 1st bullet. The bullets fired after the 3rd bullet are obviously from a different gun. Although it sounds like the 6th and 8th were different than the 4th, 5th, 7th. I might have those off a bit.

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I agree, there was lot of questions that still needs to be answered about what and who should of done what.

the sniper who took out the shooter made a 1 in a million shot. from what i am hearing it only took a short time to locate the threat and eliminate him.

I am also hearing that several of the people in Trumps details were not even SS agents.

I hope they hold the head of the SS feet to the fire Mondays.

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His first words was “someone screwd up”.

he talked about setting a proper perameter, way beyond 130 feet.

second, i am not flipant about this, what i do is look or listen for actual facts, not some nimrod with a conspiracy theory.

I believe the hatred being spewed by both sides has helped set this up, as well as all the misinformation being spewd by conspiracy theorist. if you cant see that, cant help you.

I agree we are what was outlined in the BOM. we have tribalism going on. everyone picks which tribe they feel is the “most righteous”.

FYI, there may or may not be a conspiracy going on, time and investigation will bring that out. my objection is to this particular conspiracy that is not based on actual facts from people who know what they are talking about, just someone thoughts.

hope that helps.

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That’s interesting considering there were people with cell phones who caught images of him walking across the front of the building and looking around. He had a range finder. He had a ladder and put it up on the side of the building and walked up the ladder to the roof of one building, walked across a ramp crossing from that building onto the adjoining building where apparently SS people were inside. Then he walked across that building to the other side and set himself into position. He did all of this while evading detection. There were people in the crowd that were yelling at law enforcement and SS about it well before it happened.

I believe those are all facts.

If those are actual facts, what conclusion can you draw from them?

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Really Jim? pull your head out, would you?

People had him on cell phones BEFORE the shots, NOT WHEN the shots happened!

Do you understand that comment? Cameras caught the kid on video, BEFORE THE SHOTS happened!

My comment was on what the SS Sniper did and how quickly he found the shooter and KILLED him! PERIOD! Good Greif!

NO, HE DID NOT HAVE A LADDER! they thought he did, but unlike you, I actually waited for the facts to come out to determine what happened. He hid the rifle before the event, he then SCALED UP the AC unit that was on the side of the building to get access to the roof. THAT HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED AS FACTS!

I draw the conclusion that someone screwed up! Was it the SS detail? or the advance team? of someone higher up the food chain.

What is being reported is that the SS had to cover President Biden Trip, His wife’s campaign trip, VP Harris campaign trip and Trump’s campaign trip all in the same day. They were stretch pretty thin, to the point they used people who had never worked details before. That is one reason that I think someone up the food chain is responsible for not taking this more seriously. I think the ground unit around Trump “DID THIER JOB”, the sniper unit “DID THIER JOB”, but whoever set up the perimeter boundaries, and support in those boundaries, failed miserably.

So, let me ask you this, who is more important to cover? Biden, Jill Biden, VP Harris or Trump?

Remember, the SS is like the Military, people below the pay grade do not always get to decide what happens, they have to follow orders and hopefully be successful.

I put this ALL on the SS administration, Jason Chafetz said on Fox News that when he was in congress, they held a hearing on the policies and procedures of the SS. They gave a list of things that they found needed to be corrected for protection details. It seems that they failed to put those recommendations into practice.

This article talks about why the police did not leave their position, what should have been in place to investigate people of interest.

Eerie photo of Trump shooter’s bike left at rally site as expert questions why ‘flying squad’ wasn’t mobilized | Fox News

Look Jim, I am sick and tired of people dismissing my opinions and views because they don’t match their views and opinions. You are not discussing the issue with me; you are being snarky and dismissive of my feelings. That is your right to do so, we live in a free country, but I am DONE WITH IT!

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What do you mean not facts? The sound analysis are facts. The angle the first bullet took is a factual upward trajectory hitting 2 people. First Trump’s ear, then the man 4-5 feet HIGHER up in the corner of the stands! Crooks was HIGHER than Trump was and off to the side unable to hit the man in the stands. Dan Bangino was saying even yesterday there is a line of sight problem. Use your brain you were given. Tell your so-called sniper buddy the same thing.

The crack and pop of bullets has been known and understood for decades. Your sniper buddy should know this is sound technology and facts. Why do I know more about this sort of thing than your sniper buddy? He must be a big fictitious rabbit in your head. And, the guy narrating this video several times has stated he welcomes anyone to actually study this as well. Like CNN originally did.

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Pull your head out?

What in the world are you talking about? Don’t draw me into your nonsense please. Perhaps you should read the quote of mine you posted again and then respond appropriately. That post said he was caught walking across the front of the building and looking around. It said NOTHING about when the shots happened. It was BEFORE the shots!

My comments were not rude or snarky. I’m a little surprised that you would suggest that. Were you having a bad day when you read the post? There are a lot of so called “facts” that are being reported with regularity. When do those become non facts? and how do you know who is telling the truth about the so called facts?

Who needs to do what you suggested? That was pretty rude and volatile, hate filled comment. My comments don’t even come close to the things you were saying. I’m a pretty easy going, mellow person Floyd and I don’t engage in hate filled banter. The very thing you say needs to change. How ironic. Most posters here would concur I believe, so take a deep breath and relax.

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Jim and Floyd. Rereading the posts, looks like a case of misreading each other. Yes, Floyd reacted a bit strong - clearly frustration was driving it. Time to move on please as you both are great posters and keep them coming.

My only comment to you Jim - rereading your posts since another poster threw out a hair-on-fire conspiracy - is don’t get to close to the ever growing hate-vortex he is creating and feeding. I know you have said on a couple of occasions that we don’t know the real him. Maybe that’s true in sports, but this last cycle has revealed something rather repugnent. Fish was spot on in calling him out.

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Biden gone. There was a big push last night and into the morning where Senators and Congressmen were informing big donors as well as Dem elites that Biden is the nominee. The irony of Obama, Shifty shift, Pelosi, Shumer all under Cutting Biden since about the Biden debate because they know he can’t win.

If not Kamila?
If not Newsom?
Then who?

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Whitmer would be better in a campaign but would need more time. Dems are cooked, but hatred of Trump - really the only issue in this campaign, just like 2020 - gives them a punchers chance where there should be zero chance.
Also saw someone suggest dems nominate Romney!! Getting hilarious!

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You are the one causing division with your hate speech towards me. I haven’t thrown out any division. I posted a factual revealing of the plots against Trump which Floyd refuses to believe can happen in our corrupt leadership of Democrats and their media. The post was factual information that Floyd thought he could b.s. his way with a fake sniper buddy and blame the kid. The kid was set up as a patsy. Probably promised lots of money. People need to wake up. Why did Biden suddenly quit the race after saying he’s in it? They are circling the wagons around someone shutting Biden up. Maybe Harris was behind it? Or, Hunter and his Chinese buddies? All I know is the evidence is clear that members of the SS shot at Trump hitting him in the ear and then the man in the stands. Line of sight proves Crooks didn’t hit him.

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You mean nominate some like Romney, McCain or someone else who has no chance of beating Biden or any democrat? No, the reason the Democrats are behind is because it’s Trump. He’s the only one this time that can win. A poll today shows Trump up 7% in Michigan now before Biden announced he’s dropping out.
We know Trump is no Angel. But he isn’t what the Democrats are painting him to be with all the phony law gates against him. He’s a real leader that we need, the world needs to head off WW3. Because, the Savior isn’t coming back yet.

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Well, he’s out! Who will the democrats pick? Will they force Michelle to run? Or will they turn to Hillary or Newsom? Eventually, Democrats hold their noses and vote for the Democrat. Hopefully, Republicans do the same for Trump. And, Conservatives, Libertarians and Independents all do the same.

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Ron Johnson Pushes Baseless Second Shooter Conspiracy Theory (msn.com)

The Second Shooter Theory Gains Momentum (menafn.com)

‘There was a second shooter?’ Maria Bartiromo and Ron Johnson flip out over Trump gunman (msn.com)

I have no problem with people throwing out every and any idea about who shot at Trump. What I do have a problem with is class and tribal warfare. It is the big lie that ult. libs as well as radical MAGAs use. It is a tactic that worksbut it is the entire reason why a kook takes a shot at Trump or…legitimizes groups like Anifa ultimately minimizing violence and mayhem.

The vast majority of Dems are good people but they are being run by a elite few…the truly evil people. Hopper, you are doing exactly what they are doing. It’s called divide and conquer. That is why I responded.

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Who am I dividing?

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Let me also ask, why do you throw out libs and MAGA extremism as a reason to object to this analysis of the video and sound analysis that actually sound? I’m pointing out that this was in fact a conspiracy to assassinate an opposition candidate. If you disagree then provide information that debunks the sound analysis of the video I provided you. You have watched it, right? The line of sight doesn’t work for Crooks being the only shooter and the one that didn’t hit Trump’s ear and the guy in the stands.

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Im not ready to accept any of the ideas thrown out there… yet.

I do remember Floyd posting something about what a great shot the SS sniper made to take out Crooks and I will agree with that.

However, someone please explain how Crooks himself got off a similar shot that likely would have taken out Trump had he not turned his head and looked to his right. The shot would have been just as good. So we are comparing a trained sniper with a 20 year old kid who wasn’t trained and probably wasn’t a very good shot. I guess he just got lucky?

I think I’m trying to be rational and reasonable in the middle of two extreme perspectives from Floyd and the Hopper. They both could be right. Is there some truth to the video Hopper provided? Possibly.

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Yep. I - as I previously stated - do not directly respond to his posts. It only gives him a platform to continue to demogogoe. You do a better job of calling him out anyway.

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Good thoughts to consider Jim. I’m pretty much where you are at.
There is always a possibility that it was more than a lone wolf. The poster pushing a conspiracy that it is in fact a SS plot went from, 1) it’s a possibility to 2) it’s likely, to now 3) it’s incontravertible. All with NO additional presentation of possible support along the way. That’s my problem with it. And this is how conspiracies work. Keep fanning the same flames. I’d rather WAIT for more evidence to making claims it is all FACT.
Tell you what, a litmus test for me if this has legs is if Dana Perino comes out and says so.