Tidits of football fall camp

So, you think the talent at the JCs is as good as at D1? There are talented players at the JC level in all sports. But, by and large, 90% will never make it to the D1 leagues. The main reason good and great players are playing JC ball is because their grades are not good enough to play at the D1 schools they want to play at. OJ was a prime example in football. Happy Harriston played at the JC I went to in Ventura.

you know who else that problem at BYU?
Steve Young
Kalin Hall
in other words, any mobile QB that does not have D1 experience.

My take is simple, ARod failed:

  1. To adjust his scheme to fit Ratzlaff abilities
  2. Failed to actual “coach” Ratzlaff to make sure he could handle the situation
  3. piss poor play calling and then don’t allow adjustments by the QB when needed.
  4. because ARod was basically lazy and not performing all his duties.

John Beck must see something in this guy,
Jake Retzlaff Prepared For BYU QB Competition With Former Star (kslsports.com)

I am not saying he is the best QB, but I think ARod has A LOT to do with the failure he suffered last year.

That would make me happy! :open_mouth:

Yes, because Bill Walsh said so.,…
Did you ever see plays for Montana scrambling for a first down? No, Joe is a pocket passer.

SF did not change their offense. The West Coast offense is made to be able to run if you can. Montana did do some running as well. He was just a great pocket passer as Steve Young adapted to over time.

■■■■ Harmon: “BYU needs precision, execution and confidence projected from players in the huddle and on the sidelines — call it the Riley Nelson factor”
Referencing Riley Nelson? Really? What is with the BYU “old guard” and the infatuation with Riley Nelson? Nice guy, bad quarterback. Aren’t we beyond the “let’s play the gritty guy”.
If Retzlaff starts, I will be hugely disappointed. It will be because “he’s gritty”. The measurables between Bohanen and Retzlaff are not that close (height, weight, speed, experience, winning). BTW, and I’ll get flak, but “gritty” has only been used for less athletically inclined white guys.

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could not agree more

Retzlaff worked with John Beck all summer, just sayin

If Bohanan starts, we know he is fully healthy. If Retzlaff starts, we know Bohanan was not ready to go and that Retzlaff got his accuracy fixed.

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I never said his offense, I said his scheme…
Bill Walsh did make some adjustments to his offensive scheme to better suit Steve Young’s strengths. Walsh’s original West Coast offense, which he developed during his time with the San Francisco 49ers, was designed around quick, short passes and spreading the ball across the field. This approach was initially tailored for Joe Montana, who excelled in this system.

When Steve Young took over as the starting quarterback, Walsh recognized Young’s unique abilities, particularly his mobility and strong arm. While the core principles of the West Coast offense remained, Walsh incorporated more plays that took advantage of Young’s athleticism, including designed rollouts and bootlegs.

And the downside of that? We have to rely on ARod judgement to determine that. :sleepy:

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Fair enough. Knowing he worked with Beck and if it ends up Bohanan is not at least not 90% could make a difference. I am NOT saying Retzlaff is not a talent (much more skilled than Nelson) but I can’t get past that this is that close given Bohanans measurables vs Retzlaff.
Retzlaff may prove to be an effective, even very good QB, but Bohanan has the potential to be “lightning in a bottle” I’d take the chance that he could give us an exceptional season.

You are just mincing words. Of course a coach should implement things someone can do different. But, it depends a lot on who you have surrounding the QB. Who did Arod have to make quick changes? Uggg…

You don’t have a clue on how coaching works. Just refereeing. Thanks for your service…It won’t be Arod who decides on his own. Sitakti will have lots to say.

Apparently neither do you, although you say you coached.
Anyone knows that a “system” has many schemes within it. Go ask any “real coach”.
In order to utilize the talent, you have, you adjust the scheme to fit the talent.

I know comprehension is really hard for grasshopper who jumps from one weed to another, but please try to understand what modifying schemes means.

You just repeated what I wrote. Congratulations…

Yet you refuse to fault Roderick in any of it. Even when Ratzliff showed potential and talent that maybe he could do the job, Arod pulled the rug out and called really poor plays that contributed to his failures. That is not all on Ratzliff. When you run the ball for 60 or 70 yards on a handful of carries and then throw an out pattern on first and goal at the 2 that gets returned for a pick 6, somebody needs to be let go for that. Totally inexcusable, the most glaring of many bad mistakes that left BYU out of the bowl picture.

I would say he called those plays because he thought Ratzlaff was good enough to make those plays. Hindsight is always 20-20.

Not even relevant. Those situations didn’t have a thing to do with any hindsight. It was obvious what should have been called and at that moment in the game there is no way they were stopping it. The only way they could have stopped it is with BYU doing exactly what they did.

Nobody, no coach, no team, no rational person calls that play in that situation. NEVER.

A running touchdown was a gimme.

Hindsight is 20-20 along with armchair QB. It is very relevant.

It is WELL documented what every cougar fan said after the pic 6.

No coach in a million years even gives a rookie the option to throw the pic 6 on a goal line play.
was it 1st down? holy ■■■■ sherlock.

Way to tell on yourself and welcome reality, because that’s what we are all doing here. unless your a coach of that team or a player, we’re all arm chair QBs. Even you Grasshopper and even your beloved BYUSN.

Only you would come up with that…Nice try…

come up with what?

a Logical and reasonable comment!

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