Just found an interesting statistic:
The tight end group catch 34 passes for 430 yards for the entire season.
ARod think Clark is the part of the problem? I think Not.!
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How many mass attempts to TE?
They don’t track attempts by position.
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They do in the Pros. Are you sure?
Yes, I am sure, because there are too many variables for the throw.
For example, if a WR and the TE were in the same area, who was the QB actually throwing too?
If you can find a site that show attempts vs completion, please feel free to show me. I would truly be interested in that statistics, not just for TE but all positions.
Please show me where in the NFL they keep attempts to a position vs catch. I know they track attempts vs completions for QB, but not who is throwing too.
Sometimes they call them “touches.” But, in any game, you can see them. I’m sure they exist. After all, coaches want to know if the catch ratio to attempts is good or bad. Like for our TE. 34 catches with 50 attempts would be good. 100 attempts would not be. But, if the ball was thrown to the TE 100 times, that would mean the TEs are being used.
I think you guys are talking about targets. That’s a standard statistic in an NFL box score but I can’t recall ever seeing targets in a college box score or statistical summary. Unless it’s something BYU keeps internally. But if so I’ve never seen it published.
I would think the coaches would keep it. The players as well. I bet they also have stats where they know why the ball wasn’t caught. Poor throw or just bobbled and dropped. If there were a lot of targets and bad passes and dropped balls, maybe why Clark was let go.
Target stats are kept when you look at the game box score on CBS sports.com check out the link below and scroll down to the receivers and you will see the number of targets. I could not find this aggregated for the season. In this particular game of Rex had five targets and three receptions.
Here you all go. Targets are here in this article:
Rex had 63 Targets and 34 Receptions. 53% Completions
All TE Targets 78 and 44 Receptions. 56.5% Completions
Texas TE were 49 for 67 for 73% Completions. They only have 2 TE on the team. BYU had 5 TE on the team.
I say we either can blame the QB or the TE Coach or Both.
One thing I will give you, Hopper…You will argue every and any point to the death no matter what anyone throws out there. Take of opposite viewpoint and run with it.
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So, let me ask you a question based on this and other posts you made.
In the game where Ratzlaff through the pick 6 that went 100 yards, who fault was it that the Epps did not catch it? The QB or WR?
As my old Statistics instructor use to say, “Stats can be twisted to meet the objective you are trying to prove”.
So, Rex had 63 passes thrown to him and he caught 34 of them. Of the 29 of them, now tell me how many of them were good passes that Rex simply dropped?
There has been a lot of articles about both Slovis and Ratzlaff inability to throw catchable balls. From overthrowing to underthrowing to throwing to the wrong shoulder (which you yourself as said). That is why “touches” are not really counted in statistics because you never really know who is at fault for the dropped pass. The days of Glen Kozlowski mentality is gone, “If I can touch it, I can catch it”. It is a shame more players do not believe in this motto today.
And for Clarification’s sake: Who is the QB coach for BYU? AROD! enough said, he should be shown the door.
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You do know that was a question. Who do you but the responsibility on for poor pass completions to the TE? You said statistics aren’t kept but they are. And BYU was way worse than Texas.
Could that be because Texas had a better QB than us? Just asking…
That’s may question. Is it because of the QB or the TE coach. Or both!
1984 was my freshman year. Still remember the morning I walked out of my dorm, looked up and saw “#1” in giant white painted letters next to the Y on the hill. Epic moment.
Koz and Bellini were a superb pair of wideouts. They had great athleticism, but equally important was that they played angry and fought for every inch when the ball was in the air.
Mark lives in our stake. Is in the same ward as Hawks. Not Thawks a lot.
Got to know several players from the 84 team. a number were in my Wymount Terrace married ward. I would play pick up ball with them in the off season.
I was in grad school heading out the live in the real world.
Wymount Terrace. We lived in 1st Ward. Graduation 1980. Leland Wakefield was our Bishop.
For fans who don’t remember, Koz and Mark Bellini were both all American WRs at BYU and both played several years in the NFL. Mark’s little brother Matt was a RB and had over 200 carries at BYU averaging over 4.0ypc but also had over 200 CATCHES. All time BYU record for a RB and will never ever ever be broken.
That was back when BYU had an actual offense run by an actual OC.
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