Woulda, coulda shoulda

So, BYU lost 5 or 6 games this year that they should have won. I am not sure about that. I watch these games after a good win and see the lack of intensity and the off play nights and I am not sure if they should have won those games. They may look better on paper, but are they really better. Now for the real question, why are they loosing these games. Is it scheme, is it not prepared to play, is it over confidence, is it coaching, is it sloppyness, is it mental, is it concentration, what is it? Those of you who have been coaches analize this one for us. Are these guys just a head case waiting to happen?
Jeff

I am not a coach but if you heard Rose interview after the game, he is frustrated and doesn’t know either.

It’s all of them. It starts with preparation. There is another team. On any day all teams can play better than they usually do or with their level of talent. It’s hard to get freshman to prepare the same every game. I would put Kaufusi in that group too because of his raw talent. That is the coach’s responsibility.

When a team knocks off a top 25 team and then loses the next game as we have done twice, it is all in preparation and mental fortitude.

Tonight everyone had the bball flu

As I said the same, it goes deeper. Teaching Gospel Doctrine Nephi was a true leader understanding the the Lord wanted him to delegate his work. We have no true leader on this team. We have 3 or 4. Sometimes they prepare with the same direction. Sometimes they don’t. Like on Saturdays. That has to change. Someone has to take charge. I was glad to see Fischer take charge at the end. But that has to be through the game if he’s the leader. And Emery needs to understand this. He’s got great talent.

jeffyds: Perhaps all of the above. I don’t see the bigs being developed by the coaching staff. Has Rose and satff reached or passed their peak?

fish: I am not a college coach, but it sure looks like the team is not being developed up to the level of their talents. They used to call the phenomena “the Peter Principal.”

I’m not sure I’d use Nephi as an example here.
His take charge, and the anger he laments he used to do it with on occasion, resulted in more than half his family as enemies.

The bigs seemed to perform well against both the Zags, who have some of the nations best bigs, and against SMC…the issue as I see it is more about consistency than about skill development.

Both Gonzaga and SMC are monolithic. Gonzaga has to have both Sabonas and Wiltchar play well in order to win and they lose if one or the other underperform.

SMC has to hit 3s in order to win; Their inside game leads the nation in scoring but only if they can spread teams out with their outside shooting. Both teams are very beatable because of their polarity.

And yes, txcoug, One of my major gripes is that Rose plays too much of his seniors in the early season and does not develop the newbies. The other is defense so in answer to the question…Rose peaked years ago but with the talent he has coming in we won’t see a decline in the program anytime soon in fact we will most likely see them make some decent runs into the Dance.

So a leader should worry about what others think? Nephi should have agreed with his brothers Laman and Lemuel and made merry without praise and faith in the Lord? Nephi should have ignored the Lord and not have built the boat? Taken the scriptures the Lord required of him? What about leadership do you not understand?
If there was a leader on this team, like Nephi, he would have taken charge by word and deed. He would have made clear what the coach wants from them. The rules of engagement. The plan and mission of the coach. If there are team members that can’t live in that then they with free choice leave and start their own team or find a team that they can live in.
How you take the Book of Mormon and say the righteous example of Nephi is wrong I don’t understand.

Not trying to say anything against what you just said about Nephi. He just wasn’t great at team building. Which is what this team needs…

And Nephi acknowledged his own weakness on the issue so…

Disagree. He felt much what I felt coaching basketball myself. Most of the time, I didn’t have a true leader on my teams. And, I had the Laman and Lemuels that no matter what I tried to reason with them, they would repent for a short time but return to their bad play over and over.
Nephi was a great leader and built the Church to be strong at times. Like a leader would, he was sorrowful for those who would not follow. But he was never an energy vampire.

have to agree to disagree.

Substantively neither one of us have anything to gain or stand on in this discussion. Enjoy your view of the Jesus-like perfection of the leadership of Nephi, and I’ll go on agreeing with his own statements about his own weaknesses and BYU’s basketball team will continue its inconsistent play until the final loss of the season whenever that is: NCAA, not likely; NIT, probable; WCC tournament; possible; CIT possible.

Laman and Lemuel also looked upon Nephi’s weakness. And that’s my point.