Davis Jr. arrest

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My thoughts:

1- Not surprised, that is a risk when you go after non LDS kids…

2- You lose a top defender and outside shooter, BYU is going to struggle finding a solution. Davis spent 3 months running with the 1s, screws up the entire team flow.

3- Personally, if everything turns out to be true, I think Davis is gone. it is one thing to go out and get drunk on a friday night……a whole nother thing to be drunk/high in the middle of the day midweek (11:40, AM) are you kidding me???

4- you can BET that Kevin Young, AD Brian Santiago, BYU gestapo (the honor code), BYU’s board and C. Shane Reese, the general authorities all had frank talks about this very thing from the very beginning. You can also bet KY and the coaches have been harping on the Retzlaff embarrassment with the players.

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Again, I think the DUI could be something other than recreational drugs or Alcohol, it could be pain meds that Davis really didn’t think affected him.

I took a pain med for my shoulder and felt loopy (more than normal) for three days. Doc never said it would affect me that way. So, there is chance this could be simply misunderstanding the effects of pain meds.

I am trying to stay positive about this thing, too many times people go off the rails, when there is a rational reason for things.

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good call, bro. Trying to stay positive.

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We can’t even get an answer on if Davis is in Boston or not? Did he even make the trip? I understand the Hippa thing but not this. People need to know.

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WHY?

So they can gossip?

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Uggg…You Utah people…Think McFly think!

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Still don’t understand why you think the information should be released.
Why is it so important to you to know?

It is none of your business, we do not need to be involved in the personal issues of the players.

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Young after the UConn game, “Davis is suspended from the team, length of suspension, unknown “.

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He did travel to the game. They said he was on the bench in sweats. But, did not dress in uniform for the game. We will soon find out enough to know what happened when the suspension is given out. Hopefully, it turns out to be medication that he took that made him unable to drive right and not alcohol or other drugs. The fact that he was with the team suggests that.

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what I quoted KY on was word for word, “He is suspended indefinitely”. Pretty clear DUI

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Indefinitely doesn’t mean forever. It means they don’t know at this time. It’s. It definite. The police report isn’t out yet. Have to wait for all the evidence.

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Here is the breaking story, I saw first.
Police report: Kennard Davis Jr. in possession of marijuana when cited for DUI – Deseret News

Kennard Davis Jr. in possession of marijuana when cited for DUI!

I am going to say this before people make comments: Let me be clear, I am NOT SAYING that Davis has an addiction, I saying it is a possibility and that we should treat this with some compassion.
But what I have found over the years, the research has proven that deciding to use drugs, is not as simple as it seems. If you read the article comments, you will see where I am coming from.

Here is some of the research I found
Addiction risk can run in families through both genetics and environment. Growing up around substance use may normalize certain behaviors, and inherited traits can make some people more vulnerable.

About 1 in 4 U.S. children live with a parent who struggles with substance use (drugs, alcohol, etc.), and those children are 2–4 times more likely to face similar challenges themselves.

But risk is not destiny. Many break the cycle by choosing healthier paths, building resilience, and leaning on strong support systems. Awareness is power—the more we understand our background, the better we can protect our future.

That’s why it’s important to remember: while poor decisions play a role, addiction and recovery are far more complex than a single choice. My hope is that Davis and BYU can work toward a solution together. A suspension may be appropriate, but expulsion could overlook the opportunity for growth and support.

Having grown up in a family touched by addiction, I know firsthand that making “good choices” isn’t always simple when unhealthy patterns feel normal. Compassion and understanding matter just as much as accountability.

Sorry to be preachy, but I thought I should head off the addiction comments.

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Score one for Floyd. Great perspective, Floyd. This is why I think that:

I have a very, VERY tight contact in the program. We talk, text, email, and hang out A LOT and have for a very long time. However, I NEVER EVER EVERY ask him for details about stuff like this, because 1) it’s none of my business, and 2) I would never ask my friend to repeat something I know he shouldn’t or can’t. So I don’t have any actual knowledge of this, other than being told, “We need to remember that these are still kids, and kids make mistakes.”

All I want for Moo is this: if he espouses the HC, if he believes BYU is the best place for him to play and grow, and if he believes this coaching staff and athletic department is best for him, I want him to deal with this, put it behind him, do whatever BYU and KY requires, and come back better for the struggle. If Moo DOESN’T believe those things, I will wish him the best wherever he goes.

I did ask about him when I was at a practice with my buddy a couple months ago, and was told that Moo was loving BYU, loving the staff, loving his teammates, and super happy to be at BYU. Let’s hope he still feels that way, and this will have a good outcome for everyone.

We all can learn from our mistakes. No way I’ll ever judge Moo for whatever is being reported here, because if I did, my glass house would come crumbling down right on top of me.

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Thanks for the update. People think marijuana is not as bad as alcohol. The thing is, it impairs judgment and car accidents happen because of it. I lost a friend in a car accident because a young lady ran a red light going 50 in a 40 and slammed into her severing her aorta. But, the same happens with any drug of choice.
To the question on what his consequences will be concerning any suspension. In the article you posted this statement is from KY: “It is to be determined on the length of (the suspension),” Young said Saturday. So, that is what “indefinitely” means. It means “unknown” at this time.

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So, this doesn’t mean anything to me, you and others. But, there’s more out there than just our BYU school that wants to know what happened and his status is. It’s called Las Vegas. It doesn’t matter to you. But, it does matter to others. It also matters to those who will make the decisions going forward too. I know with him, we beat UConn and Wisconsin. Not sure about Wisconsin now. We will see without him and Keba if he can’t go.

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Lamar Savage:

There are two issues at play in this case -

1. The class B misdemeanor for DUI in Utah - Davis will face (assuming this is his first DUI). He will likely plea bargain with the help of an attorney and have some combination of fines, community service, AA type mandated education and counseling, and a mandatory 4-month driver’s license suspension, etc. He is fortunate no one was hurt or his misdemeanor would have upgraded to class A with more serious consequences.

2. The BYU Honor Code Violation will likely depend somewhat on his contrition and willingness to accept responsibility and make amends. His worst-case scenario is probably a full year suspension in which he burns a redshirt. His best case scenario is he had a medical marijuana prescription from a licensed physician and he made the mistake of driving while under the influence. He would likely still get a minimum 5 game suspension.

Forget basketball. Mr. Davis is endangering the citizens of Provo with selfish behavior behind the wheel of an automobile.

Personally, I am predicting a 10-15 game suspension so we don’t see Davis back in the lineup until mid to late January.

This kid has a problem and he needs help and time to change for the better - repent. Basketball is secondary and his NIL payments will be in jeopardy because they typically have morality clauses.

Probably a good sign he was in Boston in street clothes. Hoping he can learn and grow from this setback so it does not define his character.

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Remember, Brandon Davis we didn’t need to know what was going on and should have kept from the people in the world what was going on and I’m sure he was the biggest embarrassment in his life and just like this kid with marijuana I don’t need to know what was his situation and should’ve been kept Secret and only the honor code department and head coach. Kevin Young and I feel bad for this kid and hopefully that he will continue enjoying his time at BYU.

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I agree about Brandon Davies…though if my memory is correct that is how it was to be handled then an enterprising SLTrib reporter found a witness and the underlying facts were spewed.

Police arrests are however a matter of public record as are court filings as a general rule. So KD Moo news was going to be hitting the headlines…Hope it all works well for him and by blue eyed Cougars everywhere.

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Prosecutor Robert Trombly of the Provo City Attorney’s Office recommended a fine amount of $1,390, and Judge Stephen H. Schreiner was assigned to the case, court documents show.

Steve Schreiner was a friend of mine at BYU; he roomed with Andy Toolson and I’d hang out often with Steve. Was a 3 year starter for BYU and a very solid player (averaged 12.1/5.6 over 3 seasons). Steve was a smart kid and an even better guy to hang with.

I haven’t talked to Steve since college and thought it was funny a BYU player is assigned a case for a BYU player.

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Reading between the tea leaves, this is not a typical case and may have to do with meds related to his injury and pain management? Else why retain a lawyer. Did the police not follow protocol? I like that Kevin Young said, “I know exactly what happened and in the right forum, I’d be happy to address what Davis Jr is facing.”

The fact that the prosecutor already recommended a fine and the court set a date in Jan, personally don’t think this will drag on that long. Tom mentioned that he went to BYU with Judge Schreiner, Davis retained a former Football player, Danny Frazier. Talk about a family affair…..and another thing, As I said earlier, You can bet that everyone related to sports decisions at BYU covered all of the “what ifs” when they green lighted the recruitment of non-LDS highfliers.

and another thing: We get to look into how Kevin Young handles players that break rules.

Kevin Young, “Do the right thing, and if you don’t, there’s consequences, based on our own internal team rules and rules of the university. So I mean, there’s nuances. … But that’s just my general philosophy of trying to get these guys to do the right thing and at the same time, if there is ever a situation that comes up where that is not the case, we handle it appropriately. That is my philosophy.”