Imagine Tasom and Tanner

GTwo,
I agree with you on all counts regarding the injuries.

Grasshopper,

I like your Trump analogy.

We don’t have your ordinary NEW coaches.

We have a 14 year veteran of the Canadian Football league, that is a Wide Receiver Hall of Fame Athlete that is our Receivers Coach. That is a lot of experience coupled with a world of success on the field.

For our QB coach, we have a OC that calls all the shots and is a Hall of Fame QB that was good enough as a QB to earn the Heisman Trophy, so no, these are not ordinary new inexperienced coaches that we have. They are indeed super stars in their own right. Remember what kept the small and short frame of Ty Detmer in the NFL for 14 years. His expertise was in coaching the top ranked QB’s like Bret Farve in the NFL.

Back to the issue of which you speak:

I think that Detmer, personally coaching both Hill and Mangum, and calling the plays to each of their individual talents be it throwing Hail Mary’s or leaping over the defense for more yardage on the ground, and with Cahoon teaching all the receivers how to get in the clear, be it a wide receiver bomb or a tight end first down catch, or a Jaamal Williams sprinting all the way down the field for a touch down, I think that the possibility of your first sentence is very much possible and if Hill returns, it is very probably and no defense will enjoy playing against us because they will not know how to defend against us.

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I think that if Taysom wants to play in the NFL, he better do what KC suggested: move to Free Safety immediately. But if he just wants to have fun playing in college and stays at BYU, Detmer should find a way to involve him and Mangum together. Each is simply too good to sit on the bench.

Three words: Wilson and McMahon

The two should behave mature like those two did…

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No need to imagine. Taysom just tweeted around 11:03 PST that he was coming back.

One more year for Taysom Hill at the Y
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865647810/Taysom-Hill-to-return-to-BYU-football-team-for-one-more-season.html

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Great news for the program!

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Jeff,

Yes I see that which you imagine. I see Mangum slightly to the right of Center while Hill is slightly to the left of center or vice or versa. It really does not matter which one you call the quarter back and which one you call the running back. They will both be running the ball, or they will both be passing the ball, or the both will be handing off to Jaamal Williams for him to run the ball.

It doesn’t matter if Hill is passing the ball or running the ball or if Jaamal Williams is running the ball. It doesn’t matter under Detmer’s new scheme, which is actully the old scheme under Lavel Edwards whereas the Tight end is used as an additional receiver and not just a blocker.

It doesn’t matter whom you want to call quarter back and whom you want to call running back. Their job, each of them, will be quarter back regardless what you want to call them.

How can any genius DC prepare for all the options that BYU will happen? It CAN’T BE DONE.

Thank you Holmo for letting Sataki do what was needed to be done in his recruiting of coaches and players.
Thank you Detmer and Cahoon for coming back to our aide. Thank you support assistant coaches for being a part of our new era in football.

Thank you Taysom Hill for coming back and giving us a real and a true chance of being the best season since the glory years of the 80’s and early 90’s. Thank you Tanner Mangum for being the man that you are and for helping us with your full support instead of pouting and getting your feelings hurt and causing an un-necessary controversy. We love you Tanner for the man that you are and we do appreciate you.

I don’t imagine Detmer is going to try running a “2 Qb’s at once” offense. I imagine one less player to block, or one less player to throw to. I imagine Tanner or Taysom getting in the way of Jamaal when he gets the handoff. I imagine it being way too complicated to execute an offense with two QB’s behind center. I don’t imagine it happening.

But it sounds like you are almost calling it a done deal… to confuse the defense?

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You throw them both back there at the same time, I will bet you it will produce 6 time outs during the season. I will also bet you that there are 5 broken coverage TD’s, wide open. mission accomplished.
Jeff

It might last a game or two as a novelty approach but once teams scouted for it and how to defend it there would be all kinds of blitz packages and other defensive coverages that would mess it up.

Has any team ever tried a 2 qb’s at once offense?

I’m telling you right now, Tanner will be the starter.

Hill is still barely walking at this point. The rupture of this type of foot tendon takes a year to heal.

I totally agree. I tore my patella in half, It takes a long time. I was in bed for 3 months, it drove me nuts.
Jeff

Wait a minute… isn’t the patella tendon or whatever it’s called, in the knee? Taysom’s tendon injury is in his foot, right?

I tore both my achilles tendons playing basketball. I struggled to do everything I could before, after the first tear on my right side. When I tore the left one two years later I was basically done playing basketball in any sort of competitive way, of course church basketball was all I was doing at that point anyway… but I had played some recreation league ball only a couple years before that.

The fact that I was 40 years old had something to do with it as well… :stuck_out_tongue:

all I’m saying is that Tanner is the starter and Hill will be very effective on short or goal line situations. BYU is extremely lucky to have both given the year and all the road trips into monster games we are faced with.

I am very energized about the new coaches and the core team we have.

another note: all of the new coaches are quick to heap praise on Bronco and the solid program that he left intact.

Right. It was a Lisfranc injury.

I talked to Hill at church about a month ago and asked him how the lisfranc was healing. Its coming along. He walks without a limp. All good news but walking isn’t the same as running.

I agree that Tanner will probably start early on but I’m also convinced Detmer will be determined to reward Taysom with some playing time if he is good to go.

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Thanks Glenn. Good information, and I agree with what you think is going to happen with Hill.

The Patela connects the knee cap. LIke Lisgranc and MCL and ACL they are all serious injuries and usually take a year to properly heal. This is serious decission stuff.
Jeff

Jim,

I totally agree with you that at most universities, most of the athletes on the field, would have a disastrous season with the needs and the ego of the athletes that are set on breaking records for themselves and not necessarily for the team.
Each would demand every down in order to break the records which they seek to break. I can see and understand all the disaster of which you imply.

At BYU, and especially with Taysom Hill and with Tanner Mangum, two return missionaries with love for the Church owned University and perhaps without a selfish bone in their bodies, we have a totally different situation that perhaps, no other university has.

I think that under the circumstances that we enjoy with both of these Quarterbacks, each of them among the best that we ever had at BYU, throwing the opposing defense, as you suggest, off guard, would go nuts trying to figure out who has the ball and what they will be doing with it.

Yes I agree, that one less blocker is a big hurdle, and with using the Tight End now as we did years ago, when we were considered a much more talented team, as a receiver and not just a blocker, adds to your opinion that there would be
problems with a lack of blockers.

It would have to be a situation of 1-2-pass to one of the targets be it the tight end, the wide receiver, to Hill or to Mangum or to run with it yourself, or with the other QB running with it, or handing it off to Jaamal Williams or maybe passing it to Jaamal.

With all of those targets and opportunities, compounded with the chaos on the side of the defense, I think that the
1-2=release approach would taking care of the blocking situation of which you speak.