Well, now what or who?
I was a little less aggressive in my 4 game suspension prediction than the 7 BYU handed out.
With 4, odds to stay at BYU AND get back the starting QB position was decently high. 3 “scrimmage” games and just CU on the road.
7 games is a lot more impactful to Retzlaff AND the team disruption-wise. After CU, it’s WV at home, UA away and the big one, Utahri at home. I think suspending him 7 games including the big Utah game was very purposed. It hugely shifts the weight of the decision to stay or not back to Jake. Not an easy decision for him now. Good money is on transfering. After 7 days the new QB has the majority of the season experience and if decently successful, why would you go back to Jake who is maybe a C+ B- college QB?
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We had no idea if this came up earlier and if the HC violation was handled in some degree. If it had been maybe a shorter suspension would be appropriate. I think if this whole thing was conjured up by Utah that perhaps a shorter suspension should be considered still.
I said Jake wouldn’t play another down at BYU when this thing broke. The situation may turn out just fine for Jake and for BYU. I have zero confidence that ARod is a capable QB coach and I won’t be surprised if we find that a better QB than Jake was already in the program.
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And you may be correct. However, Jake was tested in our program with the right amount of experience. The players know him and the timing is there. It would be better for the football season if he were playing. I’ve heard a lot of rumors like it was somewhere between 3-7 game suspension. He was well liked by everyone at the school. He was excepted for being Jewish as well. To come to BYU knowing the rules, building himself up as the BYJew and everything, then when it gets tough for him, he just leaves, and gets to play elsewhere and make money, that’s a weak person. Maybe it’s only 3 games. Anyways. It will be a tough season.
I think Backmeier has a bigger upside than Retzlaff. I don’t have much confidence in Hillstead. He has no size, but maybe he is Doug Flutie, or maybe Dillon Gabriel. Who knows? Bourquet couldn’t make it as an everyday QB at Western Michigan. I hope the starter is Backmeier. If he can assert himself in fall camp he will have 3 games BYU should win, no matter who starts, to work with offense in a real game situation.
He supposedly has all the tools true freshmen have started at high level programs in other places and had a lot of success.
Bachmeier is far and away the future. Hillstead is good enough to win games and I think he will start until Bachmeier gets up to speed, This could be a deal where Hillstead starts the 1st 6 games then Bear takes over???
I had to reverse on ARod after last year. Sitake has full confidence in him so we are
read what I had to say about Utah and the lawsuit…Hmmmmmmmm
Well, I agree…
The civil suit that was supposed to be 18-24 months of protracted litigation is now dead with both parties stipulating to dismissal with prejudice and each side paying its own attorney fees. This is only my OPINION–I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THE GUYS I KNOW IN THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT WHO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, because I don’t ask my “sources” to betray the trust of the university by asking them questions they should not answer. My OPINION is that once JR admitted to consensual sex, the die was cast with BYU. The HC violation would be the end of his season. But he HAD to admit it to posit the rest of his answer filed in court, which resulted in the lawsuit going away. The text messages sent to JR by the accuser, along with her apparent admission to having sex with multiple UofU players in the same immediate timeframe as the sex with JR, blew her case up. He may have paid some $ to settle the case, but after reading the pleadings (which are public) and seeing the news of the dismissal, this looks like a TOTAL $$$$ SHAKEDOWN to me.
Now, with that behind me, I’m excited for our football program. With all the (exciting and totally justified) news about Ryder, don’t forget that we just signed a QB who could potentially be as good or better, and was nearly equally recruited nationally just last year. Bear was a consensus 4 star prospect with offers from Bama, Georgia, Michigan, Notre Dame, Oregon, etc. He is bigger than JR, faster than JR, stronger than JR. This is the 247 recruiting summary for him out of high school last year:
“Bachmeier is an exciting dual-threat quarterback who can beat a defense with his arm or his legs. At 6-2, 225 pounds, he’s built like a tank and can take off and run for big yards and does a nice job escaping initial pressure and extending plays. He can also beat you from the pocket and is a very competent thrower. He has a strong arm, quick release and can throw form different arm angles. He’s comfortable throwing rolling out to either direction, is a tough kid and a fierce competitor. He wants the ball late in games and has shown a clutch gene in his HS career in being able to rally his team late in games. He comes from an athletic family with both of his older brothers player football at the Power 5 level and we’ve always felt Bear has the highest upside in the family. Also plays basketball and baseball and is a high end academic student off the field as well.”
This kid is good and will only get better. As you all know, I’m not an Arod fan, but Bear fits Arod’s offense PERFECTLY. Chris Bailey nailed it: Hillstead is in the driver’s seat now, but Bear is so physically gifted that it will be hard if not impossible to keep him off the field. And with Ryder ready to roll two years from now (senior year of HS plus one year on a mission), there is no reason at all to redshirt Bear.
The suspension was for SEVEN games, as per Deseret News…
Sources: BYU QB Jake Retzlaff transferring out of BYU – Deseret News
If that is true, then Jake only had 5 games his senior season to prove to go to the NFL and who knows if ARod would put him back in after the suspension?
Jake graduated already; therefore, the transfer portal does not affect him, and he can go other places. I do not blame him for wanting to go somewhere he could get all 11-12 games in to help with his chances in the NFL. What bothers me is that he did not have the courage to admit the wrongdoing when it first came to light. To me, that is a weak person, not because he is leaving, but because he did not own up to it.
Floyd, see the message I just posted about this. You are right: JR should have dealt with the HC office two years ago, not now. Weak. That said, he seems like a very nice kid and I wish him the best. No ill will. If he can get paid and go play someplace else this year, great. But he’s 100% in my rear view mirror now. And we now have our two most highly rated QB recruits in 15 years, so our future is bright. Arod has still NEVER signed a HS QB who made an impact at BYU, so he will be under a lot of pressure for Bear and Ryder to excel at BYU.
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The timing of throwing a 100 yard interception return for a TD? Yep, that is there.
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Nothing he has done on the field or off of it makes me think he has a shot at the NFL. I would be very surprised if he plays in the NFL.
You live in the past. That was last year. That experience will make him better this year as it has with many of our greats who threw lots of interceptions. How
Many did Robbie Bosch throw against Michigan? 5!
JR percent chance of making an NFL roster (in my humble and potentially ignorant opinion): ZERO. Zach Wilson was infinitely better than JR and has essentially flopped in the NFL. Jaren Hall was infinitely better than JR and has barely hung around as a practice squad guy.
I am only saying if that is what he wants to try to do, then fine, I have no problem with it. I am not sure he would make either, considering the limitations Jake seems to have (mobility, arm strength, etc.), but that does not someone from at least trying to get there.
To be fair, Aaron Rogers flopped with the JETS, Zach was not really given the opportunity to learn and grow in NY. With Denver, he had better competition, by Payton seems to have helped Zac get some things figured out, now with Miami, they are saying some good things about him in camp.
The Jets are the poster child of a really, really bad organization, where players will fail without it being thier fault.
Floyd, there are too many threads on the JR sitch for me to keep up, but I just wrote on one of the others that I think JR has exactly zero % chance to stick on an NFL roster. That said, of course we can’t blame him if HE thinks he can make it happen.
Funny that both QBs in the BYU vs Colorado bowl game last year think they are NFL QBs, and both looked like garbage in that game.
Point taken.
I do agree with you about ARod ability or lack thereof, as a QB coach, well also as an OC. That covers it. LOL